Why You Shouldn’t Get Advice About Vaccines From Dr. Greenmom
The Real Truth About Vaccines
These days, everyone seems to be jumping on the bandwagon to try to become an anti-vaccine influencer.
And why not? It is a relatively easy way to make money generating page views by pushing misinformation and propaganda across their social media sites, selling subscriptions, and selling supplements!
Why You Shouldn’t Get Advice About Vaccines From Dr. Greenmom
What else?
It’s pretty easy to push the idea that you are doing it all as a medical doctor, even when you aren’t!
A naturopathic doctor who:
says that she is neutral on vaccines, but then tells parents to only get one vaccine per visit and of course, to use her vaccine supplement regimen to prevent side effects!
It doesn’t look like she is neutral on vaccines… in response to someone asking “What do you say to someone though, doctor, who says these diseases aren’t around anymore because of vaccines?” answers that “So it doesn’t matter. So asking that question makes no sense to me because it’s not pertinent to me,” totally missing the point that the diseases will come back when the parents she scares stop vaccinating!
doesn’t understand informed consent, after all, you are not giving informed consent if you are feeding people misinformation. Also doesn’t seem to understand herd immunity, as immunization levels don’t have to drop by 80% for outbreaks to start happening!
“Our job as doctors is to give you informed consent for today for right now. And you know what? Say, you know, 80% of the population one day decides to stop vaccinating (laughs), which just is not going to happen. But if if that were the case then all right let’s assess you know 10 years from now or 20 years from now let’s assess what to do for your child then okay that’ll be your grandkids and your great grandkids like my job is just to help you reduce the risk for your child whatever that looks like risk of disease or risk of vaccine injury with the information we have at this time.”
Ashley Mayer, ND (Dr. GreenMom)
blocks anyone who disagrees with her and advises her followers to do the same, creating an anti-vaccine echo chamber.
“When people want to argue with you getting in the weeds. People who want to argue with you are trying to put you in the weeds to begin with. So, just stay out of them. Just ignore the question, uh, you don’t have to respond. And if they do ask you, you know, just say, “What’s the point? Why? Why are you asking?” Like, who cares? I don’t care. And you know what? Why are you asking? I don’t even care about your answer.”
Ashley Mayer, ND (Dr. GreenMom)
mischaracterizes the risks of hepatitis B. For example, Dr. Greenmom (aka Ashley Mayer, ND) says that hepatitis B isn’t a risk to babies because all mothers are tested, but she neglects to mention that when we used the national strategy of universal testing without vaccination, many mothers were missed and many babies ended up getting hepatitis B.
Remember when this baby died with hepatitis after a mistake in their mother’s hepatitis B testing? The hospital mistakenly thought the mama was negative, and her baby didn’t get a hepatitis B vaccine. She wasn’t. when discussing case counts and the risks of not getting vaccinated, fails to mention that her hiding in the herd strategy will stop working when too many people listen to anti-vaccine influencers, immunization rates continue to drop, and case counts rise! After all, free-riding only works in a highly vaccinated population.
tells people to delay getting the chickenpox vaccine until their kids go to college, not mentioning that up to 200 people used to die in the United States when they got sick with chickenpox before we started routinely vaccinating against it. And DrGreenMom pushes propaganda that chickenpox vaccines are behind the rise in shingles, even though shingles rates have increased in countries that don’t use the vaccine. What else? She tells you that you can still get shingles after receiving the chickenpox vaccine, instead of letting you know that you have a lower risk of developing shingles if you are vaccinated!
says that 70% of infants will get diarrhea if they get the rotavirus vaccine because they are getting a small, “potentized” dose of the virus. - In reality, they are getting an attenuated (weakened) form of rotavirus, which is the opposite of potentized (more potent). And few infants, maybe like 4%, develop mild diarrhea after their vaccine.
downplays the need for vaccines because case counts are low - until she gets to measles… In this case, she downplays the measles outbreaks and the importance of getting vaccinated and protected.
“It was like 2,000 cases of measles, I think, that year. So, it it does go up and down. They’ve just I just feel like the media has really put a spun on on measles this year. And it does. It grabs diseases. The news does and likes to hang on and talk about them, talk them crazy. So, so do you or do you not get the MMR? Well, you can’t get it until after your kids’s age one anyway. And that’s the tricky part. same with chickenpox is that you can’t actually vaccinate your kid in in young infancy. You can get the MMR vaccine at age six months and that is you know if you are in an area where there’s a current outbreak and it makes you very nervous you can start as young as 6 months old but it will not count toward the primary series. So you will your child will still need two more doses. So if you lived in a mandated state to go to school, your child would still need those two doses after age one and then again after age four. So I think that’s about all I have to say for measles with regards to current risk. We all know the current risk. We’re being bombarded with it in the news.”
Ashley Mayer, ND (Dr. GreenMom)
Hopefully you can see that Dr. GreenMom is not helping parents get informed consent about vaccines.
“And like I said, there’s nothing that tickles a pediatrician more than an informed parent. So, and I don’t know, it might tick them off actually, but I love I love the more informed we are, the more we can take a, you know, a stronghold on what’s best for our family and what’s best for our kids. And it’s empowering. It’s absolutely empowering to be able to walk into your pediatrician’s office and say, “This is what I want to do and this is why and here’s the scientific rationale for all of it.” And then let them let them answer you and you know see what they have to say.”
Ashley Mayer, ND (Dr. GreenMom)
And she’s definitely not providing parents with any kind of scientific rationale for them to skip or delay vaccinating their kids.
She is basically pushing a hide-in-the-herd strategy, in which you skip or delay getting vaccinated and free-ride on the protection of everyone around you.
A strategy that stops working when it becomes too popular and we start seeing outbreaks of vaccine preventable diseases!
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Naturopathic Academy of Primary Care Physicians Position Paper on Immunizations
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